Rugby-Wallabies boss Schmidt will not 'swap sides' to take on All Blacks role


Rugby Union - Autumn Internationals - France v Australia - Stade de France, Saint-Denis, France - November 22, 2025 Australia head coach Joe Schmidt before the match REUTERS/Gonzalo Fuentes

Feb 7 (Reuters) - Australia coach Joe ‌Schmidt has ruled out the possibility of leading the All Blacks at ‌the 2027 World Cup when he steps down from his position at the ‌Wallabies' helm later this year, saying he could not "swap sides".

The New Zealander, who is due to leave his current post in July, stressed he would remain loyal to his existing group of players despite ‍being sounded out by New Zealand Rugby to replace ‍recently departed coach Scott Robertson.

"It is ‌an incredible job, obviously I've been involved with the All Blacks before and thoroughly ‍enjoyed ​it," Schmidt told Australian media.

"(But) you build a loyalty to the players you're working with and the staff that you're working with, and even to ⁠the people who've supported us.

"Allianz Stadium last year, when we ‌played the Argentinians, it was fantastic. The same in Townsville and Newcastle, and Perth for the ABs ⁠game. The ‍support during the Lions series...I feel like I can't just walk out and swap sides."

Schmidt has been in charge of the Wallabies since 2024 and has overseen the rebuilding of the team ‍in the lead-up to Australia's hosting of next ‌year's World Cup.

He will stand down from the role later this year, to be replaced by Les Kiss.

Former Japan boss Jamie Joseph and ex-Wallabies coach Dave Rennie are among those in the running for the All Blacks post and Schmidt backed the country to bounce back after a disappointing spell under Robertson.

"Whoever gets the job, the All Blacks are always formidable, their player pool (strength) is evidenced by the way they finish in Super ‌Rugby on a regular basis, playing the finals," he said.

"We'd love to get (an Australian) team in there this year into the finals because I think there's a few teams that are building really ​well.

"So, I guess with the loyalty that you have to the group you're working with, you can't suddenly swap sides. That's how I feel anyway."

(Reporting by Michael Church, Editing by Sam Holmes)

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